Workmanship? I think it’s dead (Post #417) 11/25/2013

I was looking at a post on Hooniverse today. LAAS- Range Rover Makes Whoopie. LAAS if you don’t want to Google it is Los Angeles Auto Show. The picture below is from the post.

Its a humorous one indeed. Some one has placed a “Fart Bag” under the seat of the 2014 Range Rover’s seat. Fourteen year old’s the world over know the humor value of a well placed fart bag. But that is not what caught my eye.

Look above it. The white Broce electric motor. What do you notice? Yes, rust. Really? That is a 2014 model. Who installed that motor? Did they notice anything wrong with it?

Okay, I know what you are thinking so I’ll go there now. So maybe it wasn’t like that at the factory. Well, its like that now at the dealership. What do you think it costs for a dealer to fix that? The 2014 Range Rover is astronomically expensive. I’ve bought a four bedroom house for what the 2014 Range Rover costs new.

Looking at customer satisfaction surveys and reliability surveys for the past thirteen years Land Rover is the bottom or near the bottom of every one of them. Thank you Jaguar…
 Here’s an excerpt for 2013 models from Business Insider

The bottom five scoring brands in the survey were Volkswagen(174 problems per 100 vehicles), Chrysler’s Jeep brand and Mitsubishi(each at 178), Chrysler’s Dodge (190) and Tata Motors Ltd’s Land Rover brand (220).

Knowing this is a perennial problem you would think Land Rover would begin to sort that out? And don’t try to blame that score on the fastidiousness (again with the fancy words WTH?) of the wealthy owners. They sent one of their models to A CAR SHOW with that sort of problem. I know people aren’t crawling all over these models but this is just part of the culture that is Land Rover now I guess.

Workmanship. I’ve long preached that “customer service” has been dead so long people have completely forgotten what it even was. Let’s look at the definition from Merriam-Webster.

Number two is the definition we are most interested in. “The quality imparted to a thing in the process of making.” Look at the examples…Holy crap! Nailed it!

“The problems were caused by cheap materials and poor workmanship.”

The standards of the products being supplied to Land Rover to make their vehicles must be very low or perhaps marginal. I get it that everyone wants to cut costs and increase profits. The factory makes it’s profit and then passes the auto to the dealership and they have their profit. But those profits are cut down by a repair at the most expensive end of the chain when a electric motor in a seat is sent in to be repaired.

The Japanese saw this decades ago. There might be a hundred books (nay, a thousand) about how the Japanese changed their manufacturing culture. I’ll give you their autos are somewhat soulless boxes that are not terribly fun to drive. They drive just like every other vehicle from that little island or the factory in Tennessee, whatever.

We have a Honda CR-V and a Scion xB. They are bullet proof mechanically speaking. My Honda Civic was also very reliable. But it was not fun to drive. There was no character at all. The Honda CR-V might be the most uncomfortable car I’ve ever driven. I think riding on a buckboard would be more comfortable than that uninspiring metal box with tires.

Who cares if it gets double the gas mileage of the Range Rover if you can’t walk when you get to your destination. The seats in my twenty-year old Range Rover are far superior to the CR-V. That is a design issue. My Range Rover is a luxury vehicle. Look at the seats in a Defender. Function first right?

So with that I’ll wrap up. It’s been a week of rants now hasn’t it?

On November 14th I had a 245 page view day. I wonder what that says about my workmanship on this blog?

I met Matt McDonough this week. He rolled up on me at the On-Cue and we had a long chat. I was impressed at his penchant for tearing down motors. I’ve never been in a motor on my own. To me that is sort of like going into Lonely Mountain to visit Smaug.

Thanks for reading, have a good week, and Happy Rovering.

Water Pump Replaced, AC Compressor Swapped (Post #386) 8/31/2013


Back in the saddle again. I picked up the Big White Bus from Mickey’s Garage this past Friday. Mickey send me these pictures telling me the BWB was ready for pick up. As you’ve read in previous posts, the AC compressor they installed originally had a leaking seal. True to his word he replaced it. As you can see, its now putting out 45 F degree air. The volume of air needs to be investigated. It’s probably the air box. We had a chat about the design and what might need to be done to make it better.

That’s cold air.

Mickey put a coat of paint on the compressor to pretty it up for my blog. I like that. I’m hoping its good to go. If we have trouble with it, he said he’d take car of it for 6 months. That’s not bad for a replacement used part.

Looks good in silver.

The water pump is new. The old one was a questionable part now that the pulley broke. After it was off, it seems to be okay. I’m going to put it on the shelf for a spare. The new pulley’s from Rover Cannibal are now in place with new belts.

New water pump.

I talked to Mickey about the horse power the large fan robs from the engine. I talked to him about putting electric fans on. My research showed that a fan shroud from a late 1990s model Ford Crown Victoria would match up nicely. I’ll start looking for one as soon as the weather cools off a bit. I need to get my measurements and start hitting the breaker’s yards.

The expense of having someone else work on the Range Rover will need to be recovered over the winter. With school, getting the tornado shelter installed, visits to the doctor, and work, I had to trade money for time. Which according to my good friend Paul is a good trade.

Now I’ve got a new water pump, belts, and AC compressor. Three more failure points removed making the Rover even more reliable as a daily driver. No one said keeping a 20 year old Land Rover on the road as a daily driver was going to be cheap or easy. So far the costs are still cheaper than a car payment and insurance for another car. If you consider a payment for a new-ish Land Rover…I’m WAY AHEAD!

Thanks for reading and Happy Rovering.

Falconworks brings us some good news about ABS Pumps! (Post #352) 6/13/2013

I found this post hiding in the DRAFTS. It’s information that everyone that drives a Range Rover Classic should have.I have long believed that the ABS pumps we affectionately love to hate (is that possible?) are re-buildable. I’ve done a little looking around and figured it was completely possible if I could find the right shop.

Lo and behold I get this email from George.

Hey OkieRover!
Happy New Year!
Just letting you know that ABS pumps ARE repairable.
Got mine back from Al Cowan after a $US378 overhaul (vs $1500 new):
http://www.falconworks.net/ along with a new accumulator and 2 new relays.

I held off replacing the accumulator as I wanted to see what it did with a decent pump. The howling has stopped (bearing?) and all I hear is a buzz like a mosquito in my ear. I can also hear the relay click when it starts/stops. AND The Three Amigos have ridden off into the sunset too!

Stationary, I get 3-4 pedal pushes before the pump starts and it only runs for 2-3 secs. On the road, it starts when the brake pedal gets a good push but it stops pretty quickly. By referring to Al’s bible:

http://www.jewellamberoil.com/sales/index.php?

I’ve concluded the accumulator is getting near the end of its days but I’m due to change the brake fluid this year so I’ll replace it then.
Cheers
George

So I emailed Falconworks and asked them about the service. This is the email I got in return…

Yes Eric,
We still do. We also make and sell new brush-holders and armatures for them, for those who want to attempt it themselves. We no longer keep exchange units on the shelf, but will repair or rebuild clients’ old units:  turnaround is usually a couple days in the shop. Any number of Rover-specialist garages use us routinely.

Also, to aid in diagnostics, we have a full bench-test fixture, and can test pumps, accumulators, and pressure switches for folks: it runs $59 to test all three.

And, of course, we still sell the guide to Range Rover ABS brakes, “Getting Comfortable ….” online as a download.
Cheers!
Mobile message from
Alan / Falconworks

Thanks goes out to George for finding this service. And thanks goes out to Alan of Falconworks for responding so quickly.

Sorry it took me so long to publish this info.

Thanks for reading and Happy trouble-free stopping Rovering.

Rust and the Art of Welding (Post #332) 4/22/2013

Do you know what this part is?

Nope, it’s an upper shock mount on a Range Rover Classic. Wait, what? You guessed that right? Bully for you. This weekend I climbed under the Range Rover to swap out the old and tired Old Man Emu shocks I bought in 2001. Before it was over, I had ordered two of these.

I sourced a set of Terrafirma shocks from Atlantic British and they had been languishing in their boxes on my garage floor. It was time to replace them.

The front shocks on went without a hitch. However the rear shocks were quite the ordeal to remove. It required me using the electric impact wrench. (Brilliant tool, by the way. If  you don’t have one, get one.) The rust was terrible. I have pictures to share in another post.

The nuts were welded to the shafts with corrosion and after hitting them with the impact wrench they just spun on the shafts. I had always wondered why people buy shock mounts, they are made out of metal right? How pictures have you seen or witnessed in person a person breaking a shock mount on the trail? I used to think these things were from hard use. Apparently they are from “use”. The part is shipped from the factory unpainted and you know what that means. RUST.

This means that after just a few years the rust has begun and the structural integrity of that part is being compromised. After climbing around under the Range Rover this weekend I was really surprised at how much rust was forming on the parts I had painted with Marhyde Self-Etching Primer just a summer ago.

If I had the budget and time I would probably pull the major bits and have them all powder-coated. But that is not really practical nor affordable. If I were doing a FULL RESTORE it would be. But I’m not, so I’ll just chase the rust around, part by part.

Speaking of rust, I noticed the brake calipers on the rear are really nasty. I replaced the right rear brake caliper a year or two ago when I noticed my second caliper rebuild failed. Frustrated I sourced new brake calipers. I did not paint them at the time thinking if I needed to return them under warranty they would not take them back. That left them with what ever they were coated with to rust. Turns out they were coated with Pre-Rust ™. Yes, I just trademarked that product. I will show a picture of the right side rear caliper in a future post.

After pulling the wheel to remove the shock, it turns out, I will need to replace the left side brake caliper as well. It does not seem to be contacting the brake disc. I may or may not have mentioned already that I have a pop when I apply the brakes and I would bet 100$(US) that this caliper is sticking and the culprit.

So what started as a Difficulty Scale 1 shock replacement, is going to be four jobs:

  • Replace Upper Shock Mounts
  • Rust Abatement on Right Rear Brake Caliper
  • Rust Abatement on Left Rear Brake Caliper
  • Replace Left Rear Brake Caliper

I think I will pull the right rear caliper and take it to JagGuy’s shop this coming weekend and sand blast the rust off. Then everything will get two coats of primer and get slapped back on. I wonder if anyone makes a “portable sand blaster”? I’m guessing Google is going to get work out on that search string later today.

I missed SCARR this weekend (http://scarr.texasrovers.org/) I really wanted to go but the time was not available. And as it turned out, my Range Rover wasn’t ready either.

Happy Earth Day. I hope it was awesome for you. In honor, I cut down a tree Sunday which was encroaching on my swimming pool. Up with people! (there will be no singing).
Smoke’m if you’ve got’em.

Thanks for reading, and Happy Rovering.

Sunroof Troubles (Post #330) 4/16/2013

I was out checking on a transmission repair shop yesterday. I was driving around with the windows down and the sunroof open. When I got home I proceeded to close up the Range Rover.
Windows closed with no problem. I went to close the sunroof and got no response from the motor. I checked the fuse and it looked good.
I had to use the key to close the sunroof. It worked surprisingly well. If you don’t have your key a thick headed screwdriver will suffice.  You just drop the access panel, insert key, and give it a spin.
On a completely different note, the dash clock failed. I was sure it was working this weekend. So it seems the spring will be the spring of electrical gremlins.
Looks like Saturday will be spent chasing errant electrons with my volt ohm meter. I also intend to check the electrical conductivity of the ABS sensors in a random attempt to find one “that is not like the other”. It is amazing to me that the things we learned from Sesame Street still apply as adults.

Thanks for reading, and Happy Rovering.